"Film Inserts" appears at BBFC
Excellent. Back In The Red has noticed another Series III DVD extra listed on the BBFC. Entitled Film Inserts, it lasts for 7 minutes and 11 seconds. These must be the model shots; not only are they the only kind of film inserts in Red Dwarf, but it's also labelled as silent (like the previous model shot extras). I wonder why it was renamed from "Model Shots", like the previous two DVDs, though. Incidentally, Series I's lasted for 5 minutes exactly, and Series II's for 4m 14secs. So we're getting more, which is fantastic, but predictable given the more ambitious nature of the effects from this point onwards.
Anyway, the thought of 7 odd minutes of this is making me rather excited, so if you'll excuse me... mmm... Starbug crashing... ohhh...
Comments
Perhaps model shots of the ships in space aren't the only film inserts? Perhaps things like the polymorph rising out of the bin, and the moving polaroids for Timeslides would fall into that category. In which case raw, silent footage might exist for these, and alternative/extended takes for them as well. Ordinarily such things would fall into the "outtakes" part of a disc, but since the smeg-ups focus on actors messing up lines and farting on set, alternative takes for other things would have to go elsewhere.
Posted by Northerner in Drag at September 11, 2003 01:57 PM
You make a good point, tranny. Whether the inserts are entirely model shots, entirely other effects or a mixture of the two, they'll be bloody good.
Posted by Ian Symes at September 11, 2003 01:59 PM
Yes, but the point is that those aren't *film* inserts. They're video. Take a look at the Polymorph stuff, or the Timeslides polariods - it's obviously not film. The only stuff shot on film out of all of Red Dwarf is the model shots, and Lister painting the side of the ship in the opening credits of Series I and II.
Posted by John Hoare at September 11, 2003 03:37 PM
Well perhaps they mean the fragments of film that we sometimes see the characters watching on the Red Dwarf monitors then, only with the sound turned off for our "bonus features viewing pleasure".
Posted by Northerner in Drag at September 11, 2003 04:30 PM
I can't remember anything like that that was actually film from Series III; it's all video. The closest I can think of is the stock footage Lister views at the start of 'Confidence and Paranoia', or the Mugs Murphy stuff from 'Me2' - which is irrelevant to the Series III DVD, obviously. Unless I'm forgetting something, of course...
I do take the point that there might be *something* that has prompted the name change - but I just can't think what it would be. Especially looking at the running time, and the expanded scope of the model shots in Series III, I wouldn't have thought there wouldn't be much time for anything that wasn't raw model footage.
Incidentally, one disappointment I had with the first two DVDs is that we didn't get some of the footage only viewed on monitors - Rupert Bates as the Chef in 'Balance of Power', or the live action stuff from Androids in 'Kryten'. But that's nitpicking with such fine DVDs. A shame, though.
Posted by John Hoare at September 11, 2003 04:43 PM
I wasn't gonna update honest Ian, but you hadn't so I thought I would as I had 20 mins before work today
Posted by Drzymala at September 11, 2003 04:59 PM
I don't recall anybody of any value whatsoever stating that something has to hark from a particular series before it can be included on that series' DVD.
Posted by Ravioli and Legshaver at September 12, 2003 12:59 AM
That's technically true, but let's face it - it's not very likely anything from other series is going to turn up, is it?
Believe me, if the Mugs Murphy or Lister painting footage shows up on it, nobody would be more pleased than I. But I'm convinced that this extra is nothing but Series III model shots. We'll know in less than two months, anyway.
Posted by John Hoare at September 12, 2003 01:08 AM
I like this game.
Posted by Northerner in Drag at September 12, 2003 10:48 AM
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