Dimension Trip
I recieved a letter this morning, and I recognised the writing on the envelope. It was mine. This meant one of two things. Either at some point in the future I'm destined to send a letter back through time as a warning to my younger self, or there's news on Dimension Jump XI, the annual convention of TORDFC. Fortunately, it was the latter.
The main news is that Chris Barrie, Hattie Hayridge, Danny John-Jules, Robert Llewellyn and Mike Tucker have confirmed, subject to work commitments. That the cast don't expect to have work commitments in June speaks volumes about the progress of The Movie. Pleasure spiked with pain. And don't worry, I fully expect two of the other three regular cast members to turn up. Although, after last year's Q&A session, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Chloe didn't show.
In other news, the festivities will run from 7pm on Friday to 4pm on Sunday, which is roughly equivalent to last year. Other than the guests, activities confirmed include a raffle (with prizes such as signed books and photos, t-shirts and American merchandise), fancy dress competition and the traditional Saturday night disco/piss-up. Plus, lovely videos of Dwarfy goodness will be played during the quiet moments. Hurrah!
Be there, or be a regular quadrilateral.
Comments
What other two?
Craig won't, Norman only does every other one and Chloe might. Is there another regular I am missing...?
Posted by Mr Flibble at February 19, 2004 08:26 PM
There are three more regulars, and you've just named them all. I think Norman will; he seems to need the money.
Posted by Ian Symes at February 19, 2004 08:35 PM
OK. Well Norman won't be there then, because I remember him saying that he was only going to do every other one at the last Dimension Jump. That could change, but he definately said that last time.
Posted by Mr Flibble at February 19, 2004 09:08 PM
I spoke to Norman when he first arrived at the hotel and he was weraing a polo neck. What a class act.
Posted by Cappsy at February 19, 2004 09:19 PM
Ah, its DJ 2002 mark III!
Glad I ain't going
Posted by Drzymala at February 19, 2004 11:18 PM
Really? You've never said that before.
This'll be my first DJ. Hooray!
Posted by John Hoare at February 19, 2004 11:24 PM
> Ah, its DJ 2002 mark III!
More accurately, it's DJ '91 Mark XI.
Posted by Ian Symes at February 20, 2004 02:31 AM
> Really? You've never said that before.
First time I've said its DJ 2002 mark III.
As for me saying I'm not going, tough, like you've never used the same gags on here repeatedly :P :D
Posted by Drzymala at February 20, 2004 09:54 AM
I haven't even booked my hotel room yet...I'm still holding out for a roomie.
Posted by Joey at February 20, 2004 04:10 PM
Wish I could be there. Boo hoo. Think of me, won't you? Perhaps Mac McDonald could show up? He's somewhat of a regular. And a very funny guy.
Posted by si at February 20, 2004 05:52 PM
I could ask him how he felt his performance was in Series VIII.
Posted by Cappsy at February 20, 2004 06:35 PM
He'd answer you in ten minutes.
Posted by Ian Symes at February 20, 2004 07:11 PM
lmao!
Nice one Ian :D
Posted by Drzymala at February 20, 2004 08:45 PM
How could sucha fine performance in the early series degenerate into the pile of wank that he passed for a performance in Series VIII. Ah well.
I actually told his daughter that we was shite in Series VIII (she had come in to TOS chat room). She then told him of my comments, to which he laughed. He obviously doesn't see the seriousness of the matter.
Posted by Cappsy at February 21, 2004 12:48 AM
I couldn't see a problem with his acting in series 8 at all. It's the crap scripts he was given that led Hollister to become a reject from a Hanna-Barbera cartoon.
Posted by Darrell Jones at February 21, 2004 12:52 AM
I think he could have delivered those lines he got in Series VIII with a more official manner, like Series I and II. Although he could have been directed to act like a twat. I could be being very unfair to him.
Posted by Cappsy at February 21, 2004 12:58 AM
Personally, my view on series 8 is look at series 7. It got abit old and needed summat different. Yes some of the acting is abit poor but I love series 8 because its different to the rest. Without it we would never have the under-rated but fantastic Jake Wood as Kill Crazy :D
Posted by Drzymala at February 21, 2004 02:44 PM
The main problem with VII and VIII, in my opinion, is inconsistancy. There's good bits, nay great bits, dotted about, but they're surrounded by stuff that's very average. I wouldn't be without them, though. It would be nice to forget about the likes of Duct Soup and Pete Part Two, but I'd miss the pre-credits sequence from Stoke Me A Clipper and the silly "wrong number" gag from Pete One.
Posted by Ian Symes at February 21, 2004 05:20 PM
I hate Kill-Crazy with a passion. He can bugger off with Ackerman, the Data Doctor and everyone else who belongs in an ITV sitcom.
As for Mr Lovett. I reckon he had to crank up his performance in Series VIII so people would actually remember he was in it. He bitches non-stop on the commentaries for I and II about not having anything to do, but then he came back for three line performances 10 years later. He has one line in BITR II, and he's not even onscreen.
Hmm. Meanwhile lads, can you please enlighten me about the Q+A session at DJ2003 that has probably frightened away Chloe?
Posted by Pete Martin at February 21, 2004 06:58 PM
A genuine transcript, from camcorder footage:
[CHLOE comes on to applause, takes microphone, sits on sofa, waits for camera flashes to die down.]
CHLOE: So... any questions?
[long pause]
CHLOE: Oh, for fuck's sake, guys!
There was a couple of questions, along with a few long pauses. Eventually, Robert Llewellyn was pushed onto the stage, and the two Q+As merged into one. Can't have done much for her self-esteem, poor girl. Thing is; she'd just come back from a year off, having had a child, so there wasn't much to talk about, other than the release of Crime Traveller on DVD. Since then, she's, erm, been in Casualty.
Posted by Ian Symes at February 21, 2004 07:07 PM
Or maybe we didn't say anything because we were looking at her sexy bod and stare wouldn't cancel?
Posted by Drumjay at February 21, 2004 08:27 PM
All I say is, people moan about 7. It showed it had to change because it was dog tired and theres only so many things you can do on Starbug.
Posted by Drzymala at February 21, 2004 08:38 PM
Plus Doug was on his own for the last two series. Most people forget this, so what would people expect!? Grants input was gone, hence a different feel. Live with it.
Or watch Mad About Alice
Posted by Drzymala at February 21, 2004 08:39 PM
The point is that Naylor wans't alone. Paul 'unfunny twat' Alexander and some other bint were draughted in.
Posted by Cappsy at February 22, 2004 05:22 PM
Could you do any better?
I think not.
Posted by Drzymala at February 22, 2004 08:41 PM
Don't be stupid. I'm not being paid by the BCB to write funny things, am I?
Besides, it's just my opinion on the new writers they used. I'm not saying I could do better.
Posted by Cappsy at February 22, 2004 08:44 PM
"Could you do any better? I think not" is the stupidest thing anyone could possibly say. Congrats, Matt!
Posted by Ian Symes at February 22, 2004 09:03 PM
The BBC have changed thier name to the BCB now.
Posted by Cappsy at February 22, 2004 09:13 PM
If you look at the draft of Demons & Angels it's obvious that bad lines were getting written then, but that effort was put into making them better. More time, more effort, a sharper eye maybe on what's good, various things besides just writing well in the first place. Is it possible Rob Grant was the better proof-reader?
Posted by jesley carrion at February 22, 2004 09:37 PM
I like that theory. Alternatively, the crap lines had to creep in, as an extra hour of material per series was required.
Posted by Ian Symes at February 22, 2004 09:49 PM
Perhaps it's time for ANOYHER Backwards/Last Human debate. Backwards is certainly the funnier book...
Posted by Pete Martin at February 23, 2004 09:37 AM
My point being you call PA and unfunny twat but how'd you know!? How's you know the funny bits weren't by him!?
Unless you know the scripts indepth and know who wrote what bits then you can't really call him unfunny.
Look at Rob 'unfunny twat' Grant :D
Posted by Drzymala at February 23, 2004 10:02 AM
"Unless you know the scripts indepth and know who wrote what bits then you can't really call him unfunny."
No, but one can guess. I've never said PA was the unfunny one, but looking at the early series of Dwarf, one can tell a certain type of humour and plot strand that has survived the Grant Naylor breakup, and another type that hasn't. One can read the individual Grant Naylor books and get another idea. One can also see what Dwarf is like when Doug does an episode by himself, and what happens when he writes with another person. It's quite easy to see a person's style when they've worked with a single concept for so long, and with so many people.
I personally think Doug Naylor is the shit one. And him saying he thinks his biggest mistake was getting some other writers in for certain episodes. My favourites of VII, Stoke and Blue, both had other people working on them. And I find VIII exceptionally dire writing-wise.
Posted by jesley carrion at February 23, 2004 11:27 AM
Personally I think alone they're both crap. You can't say Rob is the funny one when he wrote shit like the strangerers and dark ages
Posted by Drzymala at February 23, 2004 11:29 AM
By both crap I mean on there own.
Posted by Drzymala at February 23, 2004 11:42 AM
I'd watch your abbreviations guys, PA means something quite different to me.
Posted by Joey at February 23, 2004 06:52 PM
Maybe people were talking about Doug having a rubbish personal assistant?
Posted by Ian Symes at February 23, 2004 06:54 PM
Yes, they couldn't get him �16 Million
Posted by Drzymala at February 23, 2004 08:57 PM
Douglas Naylor is the shit one. Paul Alexander is a scapegoat (though without checking his horns I can't tell whether he's a good one).
There.
Posted by jesley carrion at February 23, 2004 09:32 PM
By far the best episode of VIII was Cassandra, which Doug wrote on his own. And Last Human is simply fantastic. There.
Posted by Ian Symes at February 23, 2004 09:45 PM
"Douglas Naylor is the shit one"
Whats Rob Grant then!?
Maybe I was in a timewarp when strangerers and dark ages came out where it was supposed to be funny but I was trapped in some strange dimension where pulling out perfectly healthy teeth seemed a better idea.
Posted by Drzymala at February 23, 2004 10:08 PM
From series VII and VIII I deduce that Red Dwarf will never be good ever again.
Posted by harry at February 24, 2004 10:30 AM
"By far the best episode of VIII was Cassandra". A shame that it's nothing when compared to Future Echoes, then.
Posted by harry at February 24, 2004 10:34 AM
> From series VII and VIII I deduce that Red Dwarf will never be good ever again.
From Series V and VI, you would deduce that Red Dwarf could never be bad. You can't judge new material on previous form all the time.
> A shame that it's nothing when compared to Future Echoes, then.
It's nothing compared to any of the first 36 episodes, but it's by far the best of the last 16, in my opinion.
Posted by Ian Symes at February 24, 2004 10:49 AM
No way Cassandra is better than Blue or Stoke I'm afraid. Not with that fucking "sneaking Rimmer across the corridor" bit with the cast looking around like pantomime meercats.
I like the trailer for series VIII though, giving great promise to the series, and yes, Cassandra seems good from the editing together of those clips.
Posted by harry at February 24, 2004 02:14 PM
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