Movie's Production Partners
Interesting, but confusing, all this. Google News pointed me towards something that eventually lead to this - the AWN entry for Red Dwarf: The Movie. Listed as a production partner is Fragile Films - a name we've not heard in connection with the Movie before. (Mind you, they also list Ed Bye as bloody director.) Doing a quick search, the Yahoo! Movies entry also lists the company as being connected. We obviously don't move in the right MOVIE CIRCLES.
So, who are they? Well, I did find their company website. Oh. Stupid damn cheap Martian websites. Originally set up in 1996, they produced the recent adaptation of The Importance of Being Earnest (2002), and indeed Spice World (1997) (written by Blue-scribe Kim Fuller) and the Ed-Bye-directed Kevin & Perry Go Large (2000). They are also part of a consortium that now own Ealing Studios - indeed, the founders of Fragile, Barnaby Thompson and Uri Fruchtmann, are now Head of Studio and a Non-executive Director of Ealing respectively.
Meanwhile, the Yahoo! entry also links Icon Entertainment International to the film. They were also linked to Kevin & Perry and Spice World; but have also done a hell of a lot more - Braveheart (1995) being a good example. Which isn't surprising really, seeing as it's MEL GIBSON'S PRODUCTION COMPANY. They're also involved with Gladiatress, starring those Pony-smacking cunts.
Incidentally, whilst "researching" this news item, I came across this - which seems to give BBC Films, Studio Canal and Working Title Films/WT2 links with the film. We have already heard from Craig that the BBC were looking to put some money into the movie, but the involvement of other two are new to us.
I mean, who fucking knows what's going on really, and who's involved, but we might as well tell you what we spot. Let's hope for another proper update from GNP soon, so I can type something that's slightly less RUBBISH. In the meantime, why not ponder why so many film companies use fucking awful Flash websites?
Comments
Yeah, yeah, I know. Inconclusive, probably wrong bollocks, and not even that interesting. But we couldn't not mention all the various companies that are being bandied about.
Posted by John Hoare at February 8, 2004 02:38 PM
I LIKE those Pony-smacking cnuts.
Posted by Joey at February 8, 2004 02:46 PM
Do you like smacking your cunt with a pony?
Posted by Ian Symes at February 8, 2004 02:52 PM
I like rubbing Tanya's, if that's any help.
Posted by John Hoare at February 8, 2004 03:09 PM
Ian: No.
Moss: I did not need to know that.
Posted by Joey at February 8, 2004 03:22 PM
Spoilsport.
Posted by Ian Symes at February 8, 2004 03:34 PM
Not sure if you're aware of this, but the Winchester Films website is up. No mention of Red Dwarf on there though :(
Posted by Danny Pendleton at February 8, 2004 06:03 PM
Crikey. I didn't know that. Ta. The last reports indicated that the Winchester name would be dropped in place of ContentFilm after the merger - it looks like this isn't happening, not at the moment, anyway. (http://www.winchesterfilms.com/ is the address, for anyone who doesn't know it.)
I meant to mention Winchester in the news article. Balls.
Posted by John Hoare at February 8, 2004 06:05 PM
The film from which Rimmer got his scar, Duel is being shown on BBC2 on Sunday 15th Feb at 12.05am
Posted by ben horsfield at February 10, 2004 10:58 AM
Interestingly enough, I got a scar made by a Series VIII video case. Attacking myself with a video case was a preferable alternative to watching Series VIII, you see.
Posted by Cappsy at February 10, 2004 11:13 AM
come on cappsy series VIII wasn't that bad there were a few fantastically funny jokes. i know resurecting the crew fucked it up abit but there you go Rob can't get it right everytime.
Posted by ben horsfield at February 10, 2004 12:37 PM
I hardly think Rob's to blame...
Posted by Ian Symes at February 10, 2004 12:38 PM
well no ones totally infulable. i meant doug.
Posted by ben horsfield at February 10, 2004 10:31 PM
Bringing back the crew was inspired. They just wasted the potential of the idea.
Posted by jesley carrion at February 11, 2004 10:56 AM
Red Dwarf is a situation comedy and sitcoms revolve around the main characters, i think that bringing back the crew took something away from the rapor that the main characters had. i might be talkin a load of crap but thats what i reckon.
Posted by ben horsfield at February 11, 2004 11:15 AM
Agreed. Bringing back the crew was in the same miserable league as "sending the sitcom family to another country and watching them get into lots of new adventures". Changing the status quo is always a sign of desperation.
Posted by Pete Martin at February 11, 2004 02:07 PM
Although I disagree with your earlier point. Series VIII was THAT bad.
Posted by Pete Martin at February 11, 2004 02:09 PM
https://www.ganymede-titan.info/articles/viiisetting.php
I can see both sides, now. Bringing back the crew, etc, wasn't needed, and does change the dynamics of the show in a way that might not be that great - but if the plots/jokes had been up to scratch, we wouldn't be complaining - and I'm not sure the new setting was the cause of the problems in that area.
(And I do really enjoy some sections of VIII. If all the eps had been as good as Cassandra, or the first half of Only The Good, or sections of BITR, it might not have reached the heights of the earlier series, but it would have still been damned entertaining, and a good series.)
ARGH I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
Posted by John Hoare at February 11, 2004 07:09 PM
I was personally thrilled by the idea at first, but thought they wasted it utterly. What had happened in series VII (and VI to an extent) was that there was no longer a feeling for me of the crew being alone in the empty universe, as the 'bug was getting larger (loss of claustrophia), and virtual reality and time travel and other such things had basically stripped away the loneliness of the series. Where else could they go, without finding a yet more claustrophic setting (actually why the fuck did they feel the need to enlarge the 'bug in the first place?)?
I had thoughts that with series VIII the 'bug crew would be the focus of attention, with other people only being peripheral. In other words, here we have two characters we've followed around since series 1, Kryten from series 3 or 2 depending on how you look at it, plus a different Rimmer (a concept I thought could have been done very well), and a replacement Kochanski. With Cat, Kryten and Lister, I was hoping to see their feeling of alienation on the newly built Dwarf - that they didn't own this version. I would have liked to see Hollister only the way our familiar team saw him, not his stupid diary things. The replacement Rimmer would have been only one of the alternate crew, with him being seen only when his life merged with theirs, having to *earn* the right to be a regular character, by being interesting.
Posted by jesley carrion at February 12, 2004 02:37 PM
"Lister being the last human alive ceased to matter as soon as the emphasis of the programme shifted more from character-based to action-based."
I disagree with this comment on that debate you had. It was essential to give the series integrity, even if it wasn't foremost in the attention of the viewer. Rimmer being able to touch things, Cat becoming less of a cat (not that he had to keep whirling around and yowling all the time), and Kryten becoming more human, or less knowledgable or servile or whatever changed about him, as well as Lister no longer being the last human - these are all elements of the characters losing their purpose. If The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy had taken the same route people would have been similarly bothered - Zaphod choosing to have a head removed, Ford becoming bored with the Guide and sort of hovering around talking instead, Arthur just looking at in the inside of the ships and saying "what's all this?" - it's an equalisation of character, a status quo being reached - it doesn't matter who they meet or how good the jokes are, if nobody has any integrity or purpose I lose interest in it, simple as that.
Series 1-5, though it wasn't all that explicit, Red Dwarf was heading for Earth. Everything else was kind of on route to Earth. Series 6, the ship was lost and they had to find it. Series 7, that tension of the search was gone. Series 8, fuck knows. Why should I keep watching if the characters are just passing time?
Posted by The Kay Sisters They're Here at February 12, 2004 04:38 PM
One of the worst bits of Series VII was in Nanarchy when they turn around and head back to the Esperanto in searh of the Nanobots. That was 200 years away! And no-one thinks twice about giving up the trek towards Earth, the hunt for Kochanski's frickin' dimensional tear and the search for the Dwarf...
Posted by Pete Martin at February 12, 2004 06:56 PM
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