SMEHG!
Just a short report on this tonight; a proper one will appear in the next couple of days. But how did our shows do?
Brittas got in at 47; it's very disappointing that it didn't get higher, but for a show that appears to have been largely forgotten, it's a wonder that it got into the Top 50 at all. Dwarf entered the chart at 18; a respectable position, beating loads of other great shows. In fact, if I'd thought it would get that high, I might have been tempted to organise some kind of campaign to get it into the Top 10...
The piece on Dwarf was pretty shite, really; whilst most of the clips were of the original, not the Re-mastered series, the odd clip of the Re-mastered Red Dwarf and Starbug from the opening credit sequence did slip in. And predictably, the word smeg was discussed at great length, as though it's somehow what makes the series funny. I'll do a transcript of the piece, along with Brittas, in the proper article.
The show only outlined the Top 50; the BBCi site for the show gives the full results for 11-100. As you all know full well, the Top 10 will each be given their own show over the next 10 weeks; first up is John Sergeant, arguing for Blackadder. Should be pretty entertaining. More entertaining than cunting David Dickinson on OFAH, anyway.
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Or Vorderman on The Vicar of Dibbley.
Posted by Joey at January 11, 2004 09:57 AM
Top 2 will be Fawlty Towers and OFAH. I ask everyone to vote for Blackadder
Posted by Drzymala at January 11, 2004 11:26 AM
I Love OFAH and Fawlty Towers but will be supporting Blackadder...Considering the shows it beat, Rising Damp, My Family and [Hahahaha] the
very good but over hyped Office etc, I think Red Dwarf did very very well :)...I have to say 'Dibley' making the top ten was a surprise to me and was dissapointed Father Ted never Fecking made it, But hey, overall it wasn't bad...Did anyone else think the usually great Jonathon Ross was a Tad lack Lustre, He seemed genuinely surprised by some results?...
Posted by Cpt-D at January 11, 2004 12:37 PM
He was upset at The Office not making the top 10, but he's Gervais' friend remember.
Posted by Joey at January 11, 2004 01:16 PM
WE BEAT THE OFFICE. FUCK YOU, ALISON GRAHAM.
Ahem. With the exception of The Vicar Of Dibley, the top ten is fair enough, really. Shame the advocates (with the exception of John Sergeant, Jack Dee and Armando) are fairly rubbish.
Oh, and I might be tempted to start a conspiracy theory about the top ten all being BBC shows. You can't tell me that Father Ted doesn't deserve to be above half of those.
Posted by Ian Symes at January 11, 2004 01:55 PM
I would urge people to vote for something other than FT and OFAH, they are going to get so many votes anyway that its pointless. I've voted Blackadder and you can vote again each week like the sham 'best book' these extra votes are not a true reflection as there should be 1 vote to determine whats best, just a way of getting money.
Though LOTR is the greatest book :D
Posted by Drzymala at January 11, 2004 02:29 PM
Did anybody notice that Craig Charles spoke in the past-tense about RD? Maybe it was just for the format of the show?
Sykes with Eric Sykes (almost 200 episodes) and the genius of Tony Hancock didn't make it but thanks to somebody at the BBC they got a mention!
Think I'll vote for Dad's Army now, FT and OFAH have won other polls. Don't really see the point now but might just be disappointed that RD didn't make the top 10 especially with the movie being planned.
Posted by AJW at January 11, 2004 03:01 PM
Red Dwarf did quite well! I don't know how "Ab-Fab" got higher though... that's just not right!
Posted by MJN SEIFER at January 11, 2004 03:45 PM
"Did anybody notice that Craig Charles spoke in the past-tense about RD? Maybe it was just for the format of the show?"
Well, if he was talking about the sitcom, then past tense was appropriate. There aren't going to be any more series of Red Dwarf the sitcom.
Posted by Simon at January 11, 2004 04:15 PM
I thought anything was possible after the movie?
Posted by AJW at January 11, 2004 07:15 PM
Some bloke (I forget his name) claimed that Smeg is short for Smegma. When will these cunts learn???
Posted by Cappsy at January 11, 2004 10:16 PM
That was NOTBBC's Andrew Collins, who was RUBBISH.
Posted by Ian Symes at January 11, 2004 11:06 PM
Was smeg *definitely* not based on smegma, then? I know it's been denied, but on the Six of the Best CD Rob and Doug rather knowingly deny it...
Posted by John Hoare at January 11, 2004 11:15 PM
I too will be voting for Blackadder. Fawlty Towers won "Best TV Programme in the Universe. Ever" or something, and while I cannot deny it's brilliance it makes life slightly more interesting if there's a bit of variety. OFAH, meanwhile, is over-rated and hasn't been good in years (can we use Past Tense yet - or are they going to drag another Christmas special out of it?). Oh, plus I don't rate Dad's Army, The Good Life, Porridge, Yes Minister or Open All Hours...
I found the show rather depressing really. I'm Alan Partridge at 42? The Office at 25? Says a lot for the "sophisticated humour" of the British public that three old blokes acting like children for 27 (?) series' gets to #14.
And what was that twat talking about when he said liking Red Dwarf depends on whether you find the word "Smeg" funny? So, I guess liking Porridge depends on whether you find the word "Naff" funny?
Posted by Pete Martin at January 11, 2004 11:38 PM
Of course 'smeg' was based on 'smegma'. It's stupid to deny it.
I thought a simple fact like that would have been obvious?
Posted by Darrell Jones at January 11, 2004 11:48 PM
Actually, Rob Grant even confirms it on the 'Top Ten TV Sci-Fi' programme.
WHY ARE YOU DENYING IT?
Posted by Darrell Jones at January 11, 2004 11:49 PM
Not really. It *could* have been coincidence; and it would be silly to just assume that it was. The official FAQ even says that Rob and Doub deny it.
But I bet it was.
Posted by John Hoare at January 11, 2004 11:51 PM
Ah, well, there you go. But he has denied it before; as a joke, presumably.
Posted by John Hoare at January 11, 2004 11:52 PM
Sorry, didn't mean to shout. I just thought it was obvious, that's all.
Posted by Darrell Jones at January 11, 2004 11:57 PM
"That'd make a pretty neat speech that" / "It did".
Nyagh.
Posted by Darrell Jones at January 11, 2004 11:59 PM
Worst line in Red Dwarf ever? I can't actually stand to listen to it, and have to block my ears or wind on.
Still the ten preceding minutes are very good indeed.
Posted by John Hoare at January 12, 2004 12:03 AM
Now I'm intrigued :-)
Posted by AJW at January 12, 2004 01:02 PM
"Did anybody notice that Craig Charles spoke in the past-tense about RD? Maybe it was just for the format of the show?"
Basically Mr Charles is as aware as the rest of us that Red Dwarf died somewhere in the mid-nineties, emerging only in corpse form thereafter.
Posted by Ian at January 12, 2004 05:13 PM
The word "smeg" was taken straight off the products of a 1950s Swedish fridge company. And that is the fricking truth. Van Dyke Parks got his lyric "Where the Bohemians often bare/The Frigidaire" from something similar.
Posted by Bowel Evans at January 12, 2004 05:17 PM
Smeg fridges are apparantly rather trendy now. But the word has been used in comedy for ages - remember Mrs. B.J. Smegma from a Python sketch?
Posted by Ian Symes at January 12, 2004 06:02 PM
The official 'Tos' line is, That it was created out of nowhere, and Smeg isn't short for Smegma, nor was it to do with any kitchen appliance..Pfft, likely story...Anyway, it got to the stage on the Webboard that Andrew got quite annoyed when anyone raised the question so most regulars dropped the debate :) [The Truth is out there]...Frankly it's a great word, I just hope it wont be the only thing Dwarf is remembered for..
Posted by Cpt-D at January 12, 2004 10:57 PM
Oh, come off it, TOS people. You can tell from Six Of The Best that they were fully aware of the connotations of the word.
Posted by Ian Symes at January 12, 2004 11:11 PM
Ian
Posted by AJW at January 13, 2004 07:48 PM
Why? It makes it more amusing.
Their old excuse was that they were just trying to come up with words that *sounded* like a swearword - like goit, and gimboid. (They always admitted gwenlyn was named after a certain Gareth.) I wasn't actually aware that they'd specifically stated anywhere that the word was definitely based on smegma, hence my wariness in assuming it however likely it seems. Even the SOTB stuff could be seen as just taking the piss - *just*. But if Rob Grant has confirmed it, then SO BE IT.
Posted by John Hoare at January 13, 2004 07:52 PM
I meant Ian., not Mr.Symes.
Posted by AJW at January 18, 2004 02:04 PM
Ah, sorry.
Posted by John Hoare at January 18, 2004 02:15 PM
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