You've Changed, You Know That?
I wasn't going to do an article on this as it's just a few piddling little changes, but I thought I'd do one so that the amazingly important Prop Store article isn't SULLIED with IRRELEVANT comments.
So far, I've just altered the front page a bit, and added a search facility; mainly just to keep things a bit fresh until I do the actual relaunch. There should be plenty more changes over the next few days, including new features as well as pissing around with the design. Let me know if you hate any of it; I've already moved where the Search facility is because of COMPLAINTS.
As for the proper relaunch, with brand new written news system and everything... Well, remember that medieval war sir, that lasted quite a long time? Now take that figure, and multiply it by six, and then you'll come up with your golden number sir.
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Diary now updated. Print it out and take it with you at all times, in case of emergency.
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 05:44 PM
Bloody hell. I go out on a Saturday night, come home and all hell's broken loose!
Posted by Ian Symes at May 30, 2004 05:45 PM
Before you start crying, Ian, there's the odd problem with IE still, I think. E-mail me a screenshot.
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 05:45 PM
Admittedly, however, you're the only person I know who would equate two coloured boxes with all hell breaking loose.
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 05:47 PM
There doesn't seem to be any problems from where I'm sitting.
Posted by Ian Symes at May 30, 2004 05:48 PM
Are the lines on the front page seperating the news items lovely subtle dots, or shit nasty large dashes?
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 05:49 PM
Dashes. They don't look that bad, mind.
Posted by Ian Symes at May 30, 2004 05:51 PM
BASTARD BILL GATES.
Note the complex machinations of the well-oiled G&T machine. No painstaking plans jointly agreed after endless discussion, but just random changes implemented, followed by a public discussion. Excellent.
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 05:53 PM
Yes I have the fuck off dashes too. Fix it now Hoare or I'll send the boys round. I MEAN IT!
Posted by Cappsy at May 30, 2004 06:02 PM
Don't think it's fixable on IE sadly. Use Firefox, which actually renders pages to proper standards.
(I might just change it to use solid lines, though. Which would be a bit of a shame, as it doesn't look nearly as nice as the dots.)
Ah, fiddling with stupid website changes instead of doing a proper article. You can't beat it.
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 06:05 PM
Sorry, I really didn't like that search being there :)
Posted by Mr Flibble at May 30, 2004 06:06 PM
I had second thoughts about it myself, to be honest. It didn't really work that well.
I'll probably put some kind of info box up there instead.
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 06:10 PM
Actually john I'm just downloading a new browser. I'm giving Opera a try. I'll have a look at Firebox, too.
Posted by Cappsy at May 30, 2004 06:10 PM
The version of Opera I have renders G&T awfully (which is my fault, I think). But it is Opera 6.
I'll download the latest version myself and see how it looks.
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 06:11 PM
"I'll probably put some kind of info box up there instead."
I actually quite like the look of the top of the screen without any extra box there.
Posted by Cappsy at May 30, 2004 06:15 PM
WELL FUCK YOU THEN.
Seriously, I'll leave it alone if people want me to.
Meanwhile, after a slight alteration, Opera 7.5 renders G&T really nicely. Hooray!
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 06:21 PM
Well i have both now so I'll do some comparing later.
Well, what sort of box were you going to put in? It could, you never know.
I'm hardly one to say anything though. I'm coding up The White Hole from scratch and do I take the oportunity to make improvments to the general look? Do I fuck.
Posted by Cappsy at May 30, 2004 06:23 PM
It was going to be some general kind of box... what's coming up later on (I'd only put that up when I've half-written the article and know I'll finish it), or scheduling information, or a newsflash... basically, an expanded, slightly more graphical version of the stuff that appears there occasionally at the moment anyway, only more permenant. I'll play about, and see what people think.
G&T badly, badly needs the (X)HTML rewriting from the ground-up. The amount of bodges there is unbelievable, and even more have been added in the latest changes. But there's no point in doing all that until I've got this news system up and running.
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 06:28 PM
Sorry to pick you up on an error again, but you've got pre-production proper down for Jan 2005 in your diary. I did actually print it out, see.
Posted by Blake at May 30, 2004 06:32 PM
Big Blake smells of poo.
I mean, thanks!
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 06:33 PM
No worries - I feel a twat pointing things out, but you do things so well and little mistakes ruin the magic (and the love).
Posted by Blake at May 30, 2004 06:36 PM
I actively encourage everyone to point out when we screw up. I really, really hate getting facts wrong on the site, whether it's just a typo, or a complete misconception...
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 06:40 PM
I'll hold you to that... :-P
Posted by Blake at May 30, 2004 06:40 PM
Ahh, it all looks very nice in Firebox. Curse thier none alpahbetically ordered Favourites though, even when I set them to be in order they mock me by being random!!. Gah.
And when you say properly XHTML do you mean the Strict Validation? I've had a poke around and you're fully Transitional Valid, are you not?
Posted by Cappsy at May 30, 2004 06:44 PM
G&T technically uses transitional... but it doesn't, really, as most of the site doesn't validate, due to my bodges. See here for a list of my shit web design.
Strict is best to use really, and I will do with the G&T relaunch. It basically *makes* you get rid of all your visual crap to CSS files (alongside a few other things that are deprecated), which is a Good Thing.
Posted by John Hoare at May 30, 2004 06:50 PM
Might as well stick this here.
I've just been informed that we're a Googlewhack. Hurrah! VicF would be pleased.
Posted by Ian Symes at June 1, 2004 08:49 PM
Brilliant!
Posted by Cappsy at June 1, 2004 09:14 PM
You'll never fucking guess what! I've just tried to find one...
Posted by Ian Symes at June 1, 2004 09:24 PM
Random observation: The sting for the adbreaks in Hell's Kitchen keeps making me think of the planet pool sequence in White Hole.
Twat.
Posted by John Hoare at June 1, 2004 09:47 PM
Heh, I've got one on my site, too. You should read Dave Gorman's Googlewhack book. It's verr good.
Posted by Seb at June 2, 2004 11:50 AM
I'd have one on ym site, too, if it wasn't full of lazy cliches.
Posted by Cappsy at June 2, 2004 01:27 PM
Links page updated. Look! It's in two columns! Definitely worth bringing to your attention.
I should probably do a decent links database thingy to replace Pile 'O Smeg. Which is now dead, apparently; they don't respond when I contact them at all. Their claim to have no dead links is a pile of bollocks, and they don't update with new sites either.
Posted by John Hoare at June 2, 2004 06:58 PM
Incidentally, what's the difference between Firefox and bog standard Mozilla (which I switched to from IE a few months ago)? Is it better?
Posted by Seb at June 3, 2004 12:08 PM
Nice banner, man. I'm diggin' it.
Posted by Cappsy at June 3, 2004 05:23 PM
Mozilla = a whole internet suite: browser, e-mail, IRC, etc.
Firefox (aka Mozilla Firefox) = just a browser. And rewritten to be a faster, and generally better than the standard Mozilla one.
I'd download Firefox; I hate all-in-one packages. They always seem a bit clunky compared to using seperate ones.
Posted by John Hoare at June 3, 2004 11:12 PM
Problem with the banner is that it doesn't work very well when the logo isn't very wide.
Looks a bit odd where it is now, but FUCK IT.
Posted by John Hoare at June 7, 2004 12:45 AM
BREAKING NEWS: The site logo no longer has the ugly grey background when you hover over it.
OK Cappsy?
Posted by John Hoare at June 25, 2004 06:54 PM
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